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Transcript: 20260414-We don’t know what Bacchus is - History Is Inquiry

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Section 1: 00:00:08,440 – 00:00:47,950
00:00:08,440 β†’ 00:00:10,830 Okay, so
00:00:10,840 β†’ 00:00:12,310 I think
00:00:12,320 β†’ 00:00:13,745 as we were tracing
00:00:13,755 β†’ 00:00:13,870 >> [music]
00:00:13,880 β†’ 00:00:18,710 >> the cult, this this figure appears.
00:00:18,720 β†’ 00:00:21,030 Cuz you were talking about Bacchic
00:00:21,960 β†’ 00:00:23,070 cult.
00:00:23,080 β†’ 00:00:26,150 So, I guess we're talking about Bacchus.
00:00:26,160 β†’ 00:00:27,230 Isn't it?
00:00:27,240 β†’ 00:00:29,550 Um there is that seems to be like this
00:00:29,560 β†’ 00:00:32,269 misconceptions of like or misconception
00:00:32,279 β†’ 00:00:34,190 all the time.
00:00:35,520 β†’ 00:00:38,150 you talk about Bac- Bacchus here in
00:00:38,160 β†’ 00:00:39,510 Spanish.
00:00:39,520 β†’ 00:00:40,750 And yeah, they will obviously they will
00:00:40,760 β†’ 00:00:42,390 tell you, "Okay, yeah, this is the god
00:00:42,400 β†’ 00:00:45,110 of wine of the Romans."
00:00:45,120 β†’ 00:00:47,950 So, obviously
Section 2: 00:00:47,960 – 00:01:15,670
00:00:47,960 β†’ 00:00:49,910 it's not Roman time because we're
00:00:49,920 β†’ 00:00:51,510 talking about Bacchic cult that is
00:00:51,520 β†’ 00:00:54,310 coming like way before, isn't it?
00:00:55,920 β†’ 00:00:59,550 what I wanted to ask you is about um
00:00:59,560 β†’ 00:01:01,110 who is this
00:01:01,120 β†’ 00:01:04,790 uh figures of Bacchus and if we can get
00:01:04,800 β†’ 00:01:09,710 into what text says about the actual um
00:01:09,720 β†’ 00:01:12,230 influence of this
00:01:12,240 β†’ 00:01:13,670 concept.
Section 3: 00:01:15,680 – 00:02:03,990
00:01:15,680 β†’ 00:01:16,830 happens.
00:01:16,840 β†’ 00:01:18,030 They like um
00:01:18,040 β†’ 00:01:19,550 practically
00:01:19,560 β†’ 00:01:22,390 like that they were What is this Bacchic
00:01:22,400 β†’ 00:01:24,270 thing?
00:01:24,280 β†’ 00:01:27,310 What is this Yeah, interestingly,
00:01:27,320 β†’ 00:01:31,710 the Bacchic cult starts with women.
00:01:31,720 β†’ 00:01:36,270 Bacchic cult is an ecstatic state
00:01:36,280 β†’ 00:01:39,551 that can be entered by a woman
00:01:39,561 β†’ 00:01:40,470 >> [clears throat]
00:01:40,480 β†’ 00:01:44,350 >> who is following a very specific cult
00:01:44,360 β†’ 00:01:47,870 regimen and uses very specific cult
00:01:47,880 β†’ 00:01:49,430 tools.
00:01:49,440 β†’ 00:01:51,990 So, we know in this case we know that
00:01:52,000 β†’ 00:01:54,990 the Bacchants, who are women, originally
00:01:55,000 β†’ 00:01:57,310 women, remember we talked about the
00:01:57,320 β†’ 00:01:58,670 Scythians,
00:01:58,680 β†’ 00:02:00,470 some of these tribes are just completely
00:02:00,480 β†’ 00:02:03,990 women, right? This this is not um
Section 4: 00:02:04,000 – 00:02:26,390
00:02:04,000 β†’ 00:02:06,390 This is not the same world that you see
00:02:06,400 β†’ 00:02:09,029 in the integrated world that we live in.
00:02:09,039 β†’ 00:02:13,190 So, um these Bacchic women are able to
00:02:13,200 β†’ 00:02:16,630 enter into an ecstatic state that is the
00:02:16,640 β†’ 00:02:19,150 possession of Bacchus.
00:02:19,160 β†’ 00:02:20,270 Right?
00:02:20,280 β†’ 00:02:21,790 We don't know
00:02:21,800 β†’ 00:02:26,390 what Bacchus is.
Section 5: 00:02:26,400 – 00:02:46,710
00:02:26,400 β†’ 00:02:28,470 Let me just say that one more time. We
00:02:28,480 β†’ 00:02:33,230 don't know what Bacchus is.
00:02:33,240 β†’ 00:02:37,390 We can guess at what it means
00:02:37,400 β†’ 00:02:40,110 to be Bacchic.
00:02:40,120 β†’ 00:02:41,550 But we don't even know where the word
00:02:41,560 β†’ 00:02:43,950 comes from.
00:02:43,960 β†’ 00:02:46,710 So, um
Section 6: 00:02:46,720 – 00:03:18,990
00:02:46,720 β†’ 00:02:52,230 to the Greeks this foreign nature
00:02:52,240 β†’ 00:02:54,910 of the Bacchic cult was a real problem
00:02:54,920 β†’ 00:02:57,150 in a lot of Greek city-states. They
00:02:57,160 β†’ 00:03:01,150 didn't want to absorb this worship. This
00:03:01,160 β†’ 00:03:03,190 is coming from these women, these
00:03:03,200 β†’ 00:03:06,870 Maenads in the East and they are using
00:03:06,880 β†’ 00:03:09,830 these thyrsus and snakes to do something
00:03:09,840 β†’ 00:03:13,150 that will cause havoc and rain
00:03:13,160 β†’ 00:03:16,670 confusion and slaughter on our little
00:03:16,680 β†’ 00:03:18,990 cities.
Section 7: 00:03:19,000 – 00:03:49,350
00:03:19,000 β†’ 00:03:22,830 It's not good. So, this is the Bronze
00:03:22,840 β†’ 00:03:25,990 Age Bacchic worship that we see that
00:03:26,000 β†’ 00:03:29,990 ultimately develops into the very
00:03:30,000 β†’ 00:03:32,990 pacified and civilized
00:03:33,000 β†’ 00:03:36,110 masculine and feminine worship of
00:03:36,120 β†’ 00:03:38,350 Dionysus.
00:03:38,360 β†’ 00:03:41,030 Yes, he's the god of wine.
00:03:41,040 β†’ 00:03:42,750 As the god of wine, that's what it
00:03:42,760 β†’ 00:03:46,350 becomes and we get the stage in Athens
00:03:46,360 β†’ 00:03:49,350 through that worship.
Section 8: 00:03:49,360 – 00:04:12,190
00:03:49,360 β†’ 00:03:52,830 But people have to realize the cult at
00:03:52,840 β†’ 00:03:55,390 from its origin
00:03:55,400 β†’ 00:03:57,550 is really a place.
00:03:57,560 β†’ 00:04:00,790 It's a place that a woman can project
00:04:00,800 β†’ 00:04:03,550 herself
00:04:03,560 β†’ 00:04:06,950 in order to be filled with the god and
00:04:06,960 β†’ 00:04:09,270 the god causes her to do things like
00:04:09,280 β†’ 00:04:12,190 kill people.
Section 9: 00:04:12,200 – 00:04:34,190
00:04:12,200 β†’ 00:04:15,310 Right? Kill people. Remember where these
00:04:15,320 β†’ 00:04:17,990 cults are coming from?
00:04:18,000 β†’ 00:04:20,310 People wash up on our shore. Hey, it's
00:04:20,320 β†’ 00:04:22,069 their fault.
00:04:22,079 β†’ 00:04:25,030 Right? Let's play with them. Let's use
00:04:25,040 β†’ 00:04:27,870 some drugs on them.
00:04:27,880 β†’ 00:04:28,670 Right?
00:04:28,680 β†’ 00:04:31,630 This is the society
00:04:31,640 β†’ 00:04:34,190 that creates
Section 10: 00:04:34,200 – 00:04:58,018
00:04:34,200 β†’ 00:04:39,270 Bacchus. The Greeks have a word bakcheuo
00:04:39,280 β†’ 00:04:40,830 bakcheuo
00:04:40,840 β†’ 00:04:43,110 and it contains that old Mycenaean
00:04:43,120 β†’ 00:04:45,150 diakema.
00:04:45,160 β†’ 00:04:47,910 And it means
00:04:47,920 β†’ 00:04:52,910 to be in the Bacchic maniacal
00:04:52,920 β†’ 00:04:54,950 murderous
00:04:54,960 β†’ 00:04:58,018 state.
Section 11: 00:04:58,028 – 00:05:30,110
00:04:58,028 β†’ 00:04:58,990 >> [sighs and snorts]
00:04:59,000 β†’ 00:05:00,670 >> How do we know?
00:05:00,680 β†’ 00:05:02,470 Do we do you have some Do we have some
00:05:02,480 β†’ 00:05:05,270 sources that they will talk about like
00:05:05,280 β†’ 00:05:08,870 to give an example when because okay,
00:05:08,880 β†’ 00:05:12,550 this comes from Bronze Age. But after
00:05:12,560 β†’ 00:05:15,470 this was
00:05:15,480 β†’ 00:05:18,670 read from this um
00:05:18,680 β†’ 00:05:21,270 this new culture after it's coming from
00:05:21,280 β†’ 00:05:25,150 there and it becomes something that
00:05:25,160 β†’ 00:05:30,110 a bit different. But what
Section 12: 00:05:30,120 – 00:05:59,990
00:05:31,280 β†’ 00:05:32,630 what keep
00:05:32,640 β†’ 00:05:34,790 what the cult will keep?
00:05:34,800 β†’ 00:05:37,190 How would you look
00:05:37,200 β†’ 00:05:40,070 at the influence of this
00:05:40,080 β†’ 00:05:41,350 Bacchus
00:05:41,360 β†’ 00:05:42,470 after?
00:05:42,480 β†’ 00:05:46,110 You'd have to say two things.
00:05:46,120 β†’ 00:05:49,110 Both of them in Athens.
00:05:49,120 β†’ 00:05:52,070 You see the development of the stage and
00:05:52,080 β†’ 00:05:53,710 theater.
00:05:53,720 β†’ 00:05:56,990 That's one place. The other is the
00:05:57,000 β†’ 00:05:59,990 Eleusinian mysteries.
Section 13: 00:06:00,000 – 00:06:24,490
00:06:00,000 β†’ 00:06:01,830 The mysteries
00:06:03,040 β†’ 00:06:06,070 we celebrate
00:06:06,080 β†’ 00:06:09,630 only come to us through this Bacchic
00:06:09,640 β†’ 00:06:11,430 procession.
00:06:11,440 β†’ 00:06:13,990 We In other words, we don't go to any
00:06:14,000 β†’ 00:06:15,990 sacred ground
00:06:16,000 β†’ 00:06:18,630 unless it's been processed by Bacchus
00:06:18,640 β†’ 00:06:20,670 himself.
00:06:20,680 β†’ 00:06:24,490 That is the core of the Maenadic mania.
Section 14: 00:06:24,500 – 00:06:25,470
00:06:24,500 β†’ 00:06:25,470 [snorts]
Section 15: 00:06:25,480 – 00:06:55,990
00:06:25,480 β†’ 00:06:29,110 So, where do we see this? We see it in
00:06:29,120 β†’ 00:06:32,230 the productions of the stage in Athens.
00:06:32,240 β†’ 00:06:34,990 You see it in Athens. These are
00:06:35,000 β†’ 00:06:38,230 Euripides is borrowing from earlier
00:06:38,240 β†’ 00:06:39,630 records.
00:06:39,640 β†’ 00:06:42,470 Euripides is quoting. Euripides is
00:06:42,480 β†’ 00:06:45,230 digging. Euripides is so into it that
00:06:45,240 β†’ 00:06:47,990 his mother is a root collector.
00:06:48,000 β†’ 00:06:50,070 And everybody knows from the Greek
00:06:50,080 β†’ 00:06:53,070 Everybody knows that these women are
00:06:53,080 β†’ 00:06:55,990 [\h__\h] nuts.
Section 16: 00:06:56,000 – 00:07:43,590
00:06:56,000 β†’ 00:06:57,070 Okay?
00:06:57,080 β†’ 00:06:59,870 These women are nuts. They come from a
00:06:59,880 β†’ 00:07:01,510 tradition
00:07:01,520 β†’ 00:07:03,990 where they hunt people that they mate
00:07:04,000 β†’ 00:07:05,990 with.
00:07:06,000 β†’ 00:07:09,430 Right? This is where the Bacchic
00:07:09,440 β†’ 00:07:11,710 Maenadic
00:07:11,720 β†’ 00:07:15,350 power that creates the first mystery,
00:07:15,360 β†’ 00:07:17,710 that is the first mystery.
00:07:17,720 β†’ 00:07:21,030 Right? Maenad, the first Christ, is
00:07:21,040 β†’ 00:07:23,350 living in that world of the first
00:07:23,360 β†’ 00:07:27,270 mystery of generating the Bacchic furor.
00:07:27,280 β†’ 00:07:30,470 She's actually doing it with actual
00:07:30,480 β†’ 00:07:33,670 drugs. Mhm. And when he comes to the
00:07:33,680 β†’ 00:07:36,670 this new world after
00:07:36,680 β†’ 00:07:40,750 uh how can we see how will the the whole
00:07:40,760 β†’ 00:07:43,590 culture around it will will look like?
Section 17: 00:07:43,600 – 00:08:14,790
00:07:43,600 β†’ 00:07:45,670 I guess it will be a bit different, not
00:07:45,680 β†’ 00:07:46,750 the same
00:07:46,760 β†’ 00:07:49,350 as in in in You know what I mean? Like
00:07:49,360 β†’ 00:07:52,350 as in that early stage.
00:07:52,360 β†’ 00:07:55,310 Now, it becomes Dionysus.
00:07:55,320 β†’ 00:07:59,630 It becomes this other kind of um
00:07:59,640 β†’ 00:08:00,990 right?
00:08:01,000 β†’ 00:08:03,070 But it will be the same because I
00:08:03,080 β†’ 00:08:04,950 you said that it would it would be like
00:08:04,960 β†’ 00:08:07,870 men involved also, not just women.
00:08:07,880 β†’ 00:08:12,710 They embrace this thing and they create
00:08:12,720 β†’ 00:08:14,790 what?
Section 18: 00:08:14,800 – 00:08:43,149
00:08:14,800 β†’ 00:08:19,190 They create the absolute
00:08:19,200 β†’ 00:08:21,870 mongrelization
00:08:21,880 β†’ 00:08:25,110 the ill breeding of two pea plants that
00:08:25,120 β†’ 00:08:27,270 shouldn't have been with each other.
00:08:27,280 β†’ 00:08:29,150 They take the
00:08:29,160 β†’ 00:08:32,830 the offspring, Christianity
00:08:32,840 β†’ 00:08:34,550 and they
00:08:34,560 β†’ 00:08:38,589 create the Bacchic power within the
00:08:38,599 β†’ 00:08:40,270 Christian
00:08:40,280 β†’ 00:08:43,149 ill bred
Section 19: 00:08:43,159 – 00:09:26,710
00:08:44,960 β†’ 00:08:46,470 psychic
00:08:46,480 β†’ 00:08:50,470 image producer, which is the church.
00:08:50,480 β†’ 00:08:52,310 The church ultimately took and they did
00:08:52,320 β†’ 00:08:54,670 the same thing with Greek. They did the
00:08:54,680 β†’ 00:08:56,630 same thing with Mother Greek. They took
00:08:56,640 β†’ 00:08:58,510 the language and they corrupted her.
00:08:59,440 β†’ 00:09:02,350 They they took away her flexibility.
00:09:02,360 β†’ 00:09:05,270 You're no longer You're you're no longer
00:09:05,280 β†’ 00:09:08,430 actively, as you live, pulling new
00:09:08,440 β†’ 00:09:10,990 vocabulary out of the air.
00:09:11,000 β†’ 00:09:13,510 You're no longer advancing
00:09:13,520 β†’ 00:09:18,150 in your ability to use the logos to
00:09:18,160 β†’ 00:09:20,270 explain your surroundings. You're not
00:09:20,280 β†’ 00:09:22,070 able to do that anymore.
00:09:22,080 β†’ 00:09:24,670 The church took Bacchus and turned
00:09:24,680 β†’ 00:09:26,710 Bacchus into
Section 20: 00:09:26,720 – 00:09:50,510
00:09:26,720 β†’ 00:09:29,310 exactly what you have now.
00:09:29,320 β†’ 00:09:30,710 Which is what?
00:09:30,720 β†’ 00:09:35,390 It is not It is anything but
00:09:35,400 β†’ 00:09:37,630 the education
00:09:37,640 β†’ 00:09:41,510 training and preparation of women
00:09:41,520 β†’ 00:09:45,870 to be able to meet their peak.
00:09:45,880 β†’ 00:09:47,670 To be able to
00:09:47,680 β†’ 00:09:50,510 protect us
Section 21: 00:09:50,520 – 00:10:35,310
00:09:50,520 β†’ 00:09:53,590 as guardians of the virgin voice.
00:09:53,600 β†’ 00:09:55,710 They're the ones who are able to protect
00:09:55,720 β†’ 00:09:58,710 us. They have to be potentiated.
00:09:58,720 β†’ 00:10:01,630 Doing this to women
00:10:01,640 β†’ 00:10:05,310 is how you elevate your society. Watch
00:10:05,320 β†’ 00:10:07,750 what happens to them.
00:10:07,760 β†’ 00:10:10,990 Watch what they do.
00:10:11,000 β†’ 00:10:13,470 It's a you know, people they think this
00:10:13,480 β†’ 00:10:15,110 stuff is myth.
00:10:15,120 β†’ 00:10:17,790 It's not, people. I've read the doctors
00:10:17,800 β†’ 00:10:20,550 who were astounded at the use of the
00:10:20,560 β†’ 00:10:23,310 drugs in the different cults.
00:10:23,320 β†’ 00:10:25,830 Right? Please, people. The most popular
00:10:25,840 β†’ 00:10:28,430 physician of all time, Galen.
00:10:28,440 β†’ 00:10:30,070 Right? Galen.
00:10:30,080 β†’ 00:10:32,230 He knows
00:10:32,240 β†’ 00:10:35,310 one of these priestesses that supplies
Section 22: 00:10:35,320 – 00:11:14,150
00:10:35,320 β†’ 00:10:37,950 him with the drugs that are so
00:10:37,960 β†’ 00:10:40,990 phenomenally powerful in his medical
00:10:41,000 β†’ 00:10:45,710 practice in Rome. He buys 20,000 [\h__\h]
00:10:45,720 β†’ 00:10:47,190 pills.
00:10:47,200 β†’ 00:10:49,550 Can you talk Can you talk a bit to us a
00:10:51,080 β†’ 00:10:53,430 that person?
00:10:53,440 β†’ 00:10:55,990 Galen? Yeah, Ga- Galen, second century
00:10:56,000 β†’ 00:10:58,310 physician of Marcus Aurelius, the
00:10:58,320 β†’ 00:11:01,150 emperor of Rome. He's giving Marcus We
00:11:01,160 β†’ 00:11:03,950 have documents, his own documents, where
00:11:03,960 β†’ 00:11:06,270 he talks about giving Marcus Aurelius
00:11:06,280 β†’ 00:11:08,510 the famous theriac. He says it's making
00:11:08,520 β†’ 00:11:10,510 him better. It's making him bigger. Oh,
00:11:10,520 β†’ 00:11:12,790 his his dependence upon opium is getting
00:11:12,800 β†’ 00:11:14,150 a little bit too high. Galen doesn't
Section 23: 00:11:14,160 – 00:11:56,230
00:11:14,160 β†’ 00:11:18,350 like that. But, we see him giving Marcus
00:11:18,360 β†’ 00:11:21,910 Aurelius the theriac. Galen,
00:11:21,920 β†’ 00:11:23,910 who is the highest physician in the
00:11:23,920 β†’ 00:11:26,350 Roman Empire. There's nobody else
00:11:26,360 β†’ 00:11:28,350 who has more authority than he does.
00:11:28,360 β†’ 00:11:30,829 He's like a surgeon general, except way
00:11:30,839 β†’ 00:11:32,550 more.
00:11:32,560 β†’ 00:11:35,510 And he comes out and he says, "Look, um
00:11:35,520 β†’ 00:11:38,950 we're getting this medicine from Lemnos,
00:11:38,960 β†’ 00:11:41,070 and the priestess there that provides
00:11:41,080 β†’ 00:11:44,470 it, she is using this technique
00:11:44,480 β†’ 00:11:48,190 that goes back to the origin. It goes
00:11:48,200 β†’ 00:11:50,910 back to the first oracles.
00:11:50,920 β†’ 00:11:53,230 What are they doing on Lemnos with what
00:11:53,240 β†’ 00:11:56,230 they call the Lemnian Earth?
Section 24: 00:11:56,240 – 00:12:05,870
00:11:56,240 β†’ 00:11:58,710 And how they're processing it? They're
00:11:58,720 β†’ 00:12:00,750 making medicine for the entire
00:12:00,760 β†’ 00:12:05,870 Mediterranean through oracular practice.
Section 25: 00:12:05,880 – 00:12:29,550
00:12:05,880 β†’ 00:12:09,030 That is through Bacchic
00:12:09,040 β†’ 00:12:10,870 worship.
00:12:10,880 β†’ 00:12:14,110 Galen recognizes
00:12:14,120 β†’ 00:12:16,270 the knowledge that is locked in the
00:12:16,280 β†’ 00:12:17,710 craft
00:12:17,720 β†’ 00:12:20,710 of the oracle, and he goes and exploits
00:12:20,720 β†’ 00:12:23,670 it by buying 20,000 of these
00:12:23,680 β†’ 00:12:26,670 pills to take back to Rome to put in his
00:12:26,680 β†’ 00:12:29,550 prescriptions.
Section 26: 00:12:29,560 – 00:13:14,630
00:12:29,560 β†’ 00:12:32,630 So, um
00:12:34,480 β†’ 00:12:38,870 the impulse toward freedom and liberty
00:12:38,880 β†’ 00:12:42,070 is Bacchus.
00:12:42,080 β†’ 00:12:44,350 That drive
00:12:44,360 β†’ 00:12:47,590 to want to be a part of that natural
00:12:47,600 β†’ 00:12:51,630 world that wants you to survive.
00:12:51,640 β†’ 00:12:56,070 That is the power of the Bacchic frenzy.
00:12:56,080 β†’ 00:12:58,630 It gives you the freedom to pursue what
00:12:58,640 β†’ 00:13:00,870 you need to pursue
00:13:00,880 β†’ 00:13:03,310 in order to break that barrier, in order
00:13:03,320 β†’ 00:13:06,550 to go like they were doing at Eleusis,
00:13:06,560 β†’ 00:13:08,270 where everybody in the Mediterranean is
00:13:08,280 β†’ 00:13:10,350 coming for their initiation how to be
00:13:10,360 β†’ 00:13:12,470 prepped and that and this is the most
00:13:12,480 β†’ 00:13:14,630 important time of your life.
Section 27: 00:13:14,640 – 00:13:40,640
00:13:14,640 β†’ 00:13:17,070 Right? It's Imagine if instead of people
00:13:17,080 β†’ 00:13:18,430 going
00:13:18,440 β†’ 00:13:21,630 on a trek to Mecca, imagine if they went
00:13:21,640 β†’ 00:13:24,190 there and came back with a permanent
00:13:24,200 β†’ 00:13:26,990 transformation in the neuropeptides in
00:13:27,000 β†’ 00:13:29,350 their brain and the way that their brain
00:13:29,360 β†’ 00:13:32,670 was working so that their bodies could
00:13:32,680 β†’ 00:13:36,230 do X, Y, and Z. So that their perception
00:13:36,240 β†’ 00:13:40,640 was opened X, Y, and Z.